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Poster: snoori Date: Mar 2, 2014 9:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Hey WT and other history buffs

Ferguson's doc is called 'The pity of war'. He is quite scathing of Britain's entry into the war, though less convincing on the alternative.

Hastings' point about Germany becoming the dominant European power is probably correct, but makes Britain seem only self-interested. His argument that we had an obligation to defend Belgium is compelling.

Alliances and pacts do seem to have got us into a hell of a lot of trouble throughout history.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 2, 2014 10:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Hey WT and other history buffs

Egads, man! The alternative??!! Why, it's NO Downton Abbey, that's what!!

Shudder...

;)

Just sayin; hard to go back and say "GB shouldn't have gone in for..._______" (Belgium, France, Rhodes [whoops, not a country...oh well, it works], Poland, etc.). At the time, it seemed as clear as us coming to the aid of...of...of...Kuwait? I dunno--but really, at the time, no one in Europe really said much about "this is the WRONG war", etc., etc. No one sez that about most any of the wars of the 19th century, right? They all seemed "just" or "good", depending on your POV. Wars back then were just not what they became, and nobody knew that about WWI except for the few that had witnessed the carnage of the Boer War first hand (like Kitchner, for all his faults; he predicted it precisely).

Really, it's the recent wars that really jump out as wars over ideology (Korea, VNam, etc).

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Poster: snoori Date: Mar 2, 2014 11:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead - Hey WT and other history buffs

Come now WT, everyone knows Downton Abbey was caused by an iceberg. Wasn't it ?